[Mono-dev] Still seeking contractor to adding Tizen support to Mono
bob at summerwill.net
Thu Jun 12 17:37:06 UTC 2014
I think it's probably really simple, yes.
I hope so anyway! Thanks for the good wishes.
On Jun 12, 2014 10:03 AM, "Rafael Teixeira" <monoman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> I hope you succeed either way, on finding a contractor or doing it
> yourself, but in truth I'm not sure how much 'porting' you need to do, as
> Tizen is just a broad target as Android and Linux are too. Do you need to
> port it to some specific CPU/SOC? Tizen lacks some basic dependency Mono
> can't leave without? (From the top of my mind, besides the tooling:
> autotool, gcc, etc..., Mono needs threading, normally pthreads, and a
> recent libc which should be in synch with gcc, so it is minimal stuff)
> Recently I've built Mono from head on Raspberry Pi, and it was quite easy,
> although it was very slow (a full day to build/install).
> Probably all you'll need is to guarantee you have the tooling right and
> adjust the autoconf scripts to recognize Tizen.
> Good luck, :)
> Rafael Teixeira
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Bob Summerwill <bob at summerwill.net>
>> PS. If nobody comes forward I WILL just do the work myself. I've been
>> doing professional C++ in the games industry for 18 years and am entirely
>> I am just very time-limited personally, and have never built Mono
>> myself, let alone done a port, so it's going to be a rather slow
>> process. I would rather pay an expert to do it quickly, so I can get on
>> to the more interesting phases of the project.
>> I would have hoped that somebody in this group would have been interested
>> in porting the Mono Runtime to a true Linux mobile platform, in the open,
>> and getting paid for their effort into the bargain?
>> I guess I thought wrong :-(
>> On Jun 12, 2014 9:09 AM, "Bob Summerwill" <bob at summerwill.net> wrote:
>>> (reply, rather than reply-all in error 2 days ago)
>>> Hey Edward,
>>> Thanks for making me smile at the start of the day!
>>> I'm not as naive as you may think. I know Miguel and Nat personally,
>>> having met them at Xamarin Evolve last year and been in contact
>>> periodically ever since. I've been asking them about Tizen support for
>>> the last year, but it just isn't a big enough market for them to bother
>>> with YET. I attended the Tizen Developer Conference last week, and now
>>> have contacts in Samsung and Intel too. I also have contacts in
>>> Unity3D, having just ended at 15+ year spell at EA.
>>> If you read my TizenExperts posting you will get a better idea of what
>>> I'm looking to build.
>>> I'm seeking a contractor PURELY to port the runtime. It already works
>>> on Linux, and I know that there are already multiple working private ports
>>> to Tizen. I don't think it's right to keep for Mono Runtime on Tizen to be
>>> I'm not trying to build a full Xamarin.Tizen stack, including UI
>>> designers, etc. That indeed would be a fool's errand.
>>> Phase 1 - Mono Runtime (seeking contractor, or I will do it myself worse
>>> Phase 2 - Bind Tizen C++ APIs using CppSharp (I have a contractor
>>> already lined up)
>>> Phase 3 - Very minimal MonoDevelop plugin (just build, run, debug) based
>>> on existing MeeGo plugin
>>> This humbler project is not an Ark. It's actually pretty simple, and
>>> it is utterly complementary to Xamarin's business. I shook Nat's hand
>>> last Tuesday as I gave him on a MonoTizen card in Xamarin's SF offices.
>>> I spent two hours having lunch with J.Frederick. I'm not trying to
>>> screw Xamarin or directly compete with them. Just to starting bringing
>>> Mono (open source) into Tizen world.
>>> Best wishes!
>>> BTW... The "must not work for Xamarin" should really have been...
>>> "must not work for Xamarin, Microsoft, Unity, Samsung or Intel".
>>> Porting the Mono Runtime to Tizen is a community project.
>>> The benefit of this first phase (with no commercial extras) is that it
>>> enables any developer in the world to build C# applications on Tizen. A
>>> huge win for us all. You'll need to write P/Invoke calls to any native
>>> code and won't have a Tizen-specific support in MonoDevelop, but it will
>>> kick the answer out of HTML5 development for Tizen, and will open things
>>> up for the huge number of app developers who will recoil in horror when
>>> they realize the complexity of C++ native development on Tizen.
>>> On Jun 10, 2014 4:56 AM, "Edward Ned Harvey (mono)" <
>>> edward.harvey.mono at clevertrove.com> wrote:
>>>> > From: mono-devel-list-bounces at lists.ximian.com [mailto:
>>>> > bounces at lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Bob Summerwill
>>>> > I want to PAY SOMEBODY to port the Mono Runtime to Tizen. Could
>>>> > person be YOU? If so, please contact me.
>>>> > . Must not be employed by Xamarin.
>>>> Good luck. You might as well be asking a single human to build an ark,
>>>> or the Titanic.
>>>> Xamarin is a whole *company* full of people to make mono run on iOS and
>>>> Android primarily (and Mac too, as a 2nd class citizen.)
>>>> The fact that tizen is linux-based is irrelevant. So is Android.
>>>> Personally I think the best bet is to come up with an attractive
>>>> business model and form a business relationship to expand Xamarin's product
>>>> offering to include Xamarin.Tizen. Come up with some investment capital,
>>>> identify a business plan that leverages existing resources where possible
>>>> and increases where necessary...
>>>> As I said... Good luck...
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